Comments on: Principia: intentional, not exclusive

By: vkb

vkb — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:58:42 +0000

While you are visiting with your Pastor on the subject of homosexuality or non-marital sex, or even obsessive marital sex, you might look in the Bible at the rules given in Lev. 18:22; 20:13; Judges 19:22-23; I Kings 14:24; 15:12; 22:46; II Kings 23:7; I Cor. 6:9-10; 7:1-17; I Tim. 1:9-11; Jude 1:7; and all the references to fornication, lust, flesh, etc. Mrs. Eddy has a lot to say about sensuality too (and the freedom from overcoming the belief).

By: csydness

csydness — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:13:51 +0000

We should not debate Christian Science, so all I have to say in response to this article and comments is to please return to the Pastor, our textbook Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures. Our Leader, Mary Baker Eddy writes on page 483, beginning on line 8:

“In order to heal by Science, you must not be ignorant of the moral and spiritual demands of Science nor disobey them. Moral ignorance or sin affects your demonstration, and hinders its approach to the standard of Christian Science.”

By: goomba22

goomba22 — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:28:52 +0000

I completely agree orangeyclock. While substance abuse etc may contribute to harming oneself, living with someone while single or being gay cannot contribute to harming oneself.

I felt like I needed to construct my argument somewhat out from Principia’s current paradigm, which as it stands considers gay relationships and cohabitation outside of wedlock harmful to those involved. I disagree entirely with this perspective but wished to make the point that even if it were true, it still would not justify excluding those involved in such relationships from the community.

Also, because the Mother Church only tolerates homosexuality, it doesn’t officially condone homosexuality I wished to temper my argument in order to keep it in line with the Mother Church. I think that even though the Mother Church is more tolerant of homosexuality than Principia is, it still needs to take a more courageous stance in defense of gay rights.

Frankly, it is absolutely absurd that there is any resistance to queer equality at Principia or in the CS movement as a whole. We should have gotten passed this decades ago.

Thanks for bringing this up.

Gameli Anumu
<3 to all

By: orangeyclock

orangeyclock — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:16:21 +0000

Id like something clarified. If I follow correctly, you have set up two catagories of behavior, one that causes harm to others and one that causes harm to oneself. At the end of your article it seems you’ve implied that, like using mind altering substances or engaging in sexual misconduct, being homosexual is harmful to an individuals spirituality, albeit not to anyone elses. It seems to me that progress on the homosexual issue at Principia cant move forward until the insinuation of harm has been removed completely.

By: rdtetu

rdtetu — Tue, 19 May 2009 01:12:15 +0000

Thanks for writing such a wonderful article. All the points you made are so right on. Our job as students of C.S. is to be non judgmental and to live our own lives in the most spiritual way that we best understand. Thanks again and hopefully your article will help make a difference for the ones who are being judged.